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Author Topic: Older tires and classing STS vs CSP  (Read 3884 times)
MikeDe
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« on: February 29, 2016, 02:31:47 PM »

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    Question:  I would like to run STS all season for points but my tires will not be available until April.  Will you allow me to run in STS until the new tires arrive?

     Plea: I purchased the "Chenery" 1990 Civic SI at the end of the 2015 season.  I attempted to order tires from TireRack, Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R, but the website says they will not be in the warehouse until March 11th.  I called them and they advised me that it would likely be April before they will be filling today's orders.  The car currently has older Toyo Proxes R1R that have a treadware rating of 140 stamped on the sidewall.  However, It is pretty well documented that Toyo simply changed the stamping in the last few years to abide by the 200 treadware rule (same tire new stamp) This rule kicks me out of STS and into CSP with the older Proxes.  The new Bridgestones will be more competitive than the used/old Proxes, but I also understand that the rules are the rules.

     Article: http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/another-tire-magically-adjusts-its-rating-for-use-in-st-1670909143
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 07:45:08 PM »

Thanks for posting this Mike as it is a common question.

Short answer is we will require you to run tires at 200 treadwear in ST, no matter what the actual compond construction is.

2 options:

Run something you have or can buy in 200+ flavor thats available quickly.

Run the next class up, the prepared class, for the first event and take the PAX hit. For points we drop the lowest ~2 events so it wont effect your ST trophy.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 02:21:15 AM »

Goes by what's written on the sidewalls. But looks like the battle for ST trophy this year is going to be a tough one.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 05:40:16 AM »

Yeah, I have read the rules. I just didn't want to buy a lesser tire if I didn't have to.  Thanks for the replies never hurts to ask.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2016, 06:48:37 AM »


Yes the rule is strict in pure SCCA events.  In VMSC we choose to follow SCCA rules
but are able to adjust things as needed in the spirit of fun and reasonable competition
among our members.

NB:  I am *not* a member of the competition committee and have no say in how your
car is classed.  But if asked, I would vote for considering the known capability of the tire
over the printing on the sidewall.

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2016, 07:46:00 AM »

We can close this one.  I just got off the phone with Tire Rack (again) and they now believe they will be able to get them to me in time.  I have been following the website daily for the last week......and saw that the "due in warehouse" date had been moved up. I decided to call them to get the story.  I went ahead and ordered them, so I have now committed to the RE-71R, they should be here just in time for the season to start!!
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