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« on: November 29, 2005, 01:26:03 PM »

I stole this from the Autocross.us forum:
2006               2005              Difference    
SS    0.84         SS    0.837        SS    0.003
AS    0.831        AS    0.828        AS    0.003
BS    0.822        BS    0.821        BS    0.001
CS    0.813        CS    0.81         CS    0.003
DS    0.798        DS    0.796        DS    0.002
ES    0.806        ES    0.806        ES    0
FS    0.805        FS    0.805        FS    0
GS    0.795        GS    0.782        GS    0.013
HS    0.78         HS    0.777        HS    0.003
                           
ASP    0.852        ASP    0.85         ASP    0.002
BSP    0.843        BSP    0.839        BSP    0.004
CSP    0.838        CSP    0.838        CSP    0
DSP    0.826        DSP    0.822        DSP    0.004
ESP    0.828        ESP    0.826        ESP    0.002
FSP    0.814        FSP    0.811        FSP    0.003
                           
STS     0.797         STS    0.799         STS    -0.002
STS2    0.802        STS2    0.803        STS2    -0.001
STX     0.803         STX    0.802         STX     0.001
STU     0.82          STU    0.818         STU     0.002
SM      0.845          SM    0.842         SM      0.003
SM2     0.854         SM2    0.852         SM2     0.002
                           
XP    0.868        AP    0.865        XP    0.003
BP    0.862        BP    0.861        BP    0.001
CP    0.856        CP    0.855        CP    0.001
DP    0.851        DP    0.844        DP    0.007
EP    0.858        EP    0.858        EP    0
FP    0.863        FP    0.862        FP    0.001

                           
AM    1            AM    1            AM    0
BM    0.944        BM    0.942        BM    0.002
CM    0.909        CM    0.908        CM    0.001
DM    0.885        DM    0.879        DM    0.006
EM    0.881        EM    0.886        EM    -0.005
FM    0.887        FM    0.884        FM    0.003

FSAE    0.948        FSAE    0.948        FSAE    0
F125    0.937        F125    0.939        F125    -0.002
FJ1    0.781        FJ1    0.781        FJ1    0
FJ2    0.796        FJ2    0.797        FJ2    -0.001
FJ3 (FJB)    0.83        FJ3    0.823        FJ3    0.007
FJ4 (FJA)    0.837        FJ4    0.832        FJ4    0.005

[Edited on 29-11-2005 by Autox]
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2005, 01:27:23 PM »

And this:
 Audi TT (225hp, dual intercoolers) from BS to DS.
- Audi TT 3.2 V6 from BS to DS.
- BMW 330 with ZHP, all from BS to DS.
- Ford Mustang Cobra ('03 - '04) to F Stock.
- Audi S4 V8 (04+) from AS to FS
- BMW M5 ('00-'03) from AS to FS
- Cadillac CTS-V from AS to FS
- Mercedes E55 AMG from AS to FS
- Toyota Celica GTS ('00+) from DS to GS
- Volkswagen Golf/Jetta/GLI 24V VR6 ('02+) from DS to GS
- Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V from DS to GS
- Acura RSX (Non-'S') from GS to HS
- Acura TSX from GS to HS
- Honda Civic Si ('02+) from GS to HS
- Hyundai Tiburon 6-cyl ('02+) from GS to HS
- Pontiac Vibe from GS to HS
- Saturn DOHC models from GS to HS
- Toyota Matrix (all) from GS to HS
- Civic Si ('99-'00) from GS to HS
- Mazda 3 (all) from GS to HS
- Nissan 200SX SE-R ('95+) from GS to HS
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2005, 02:18:38 PM »

Like we need all those new cars in GS.  But, look at all the stuff going to HS, man.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2005, 02:29:06 PM »

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- Acura RSX (Non-'S') from GS to HS
- Acura TSX from GS to HS
- Honda Civic Si ('02+) from GS to HS
- Civic Si ('99-'00) from GS to HS
- Mazda 3 (all) from GS to HS
- Nissan 200SX SE-R ('95+) from GS to HS


You've got to be farking kidding me.  :ouch::wtf:

And everything except STS gets its PAX hardened?  Umm...hello?
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2005, 06:56:05 PM »

They seems to be killing the current HS, GS, DS and FS ranks.  4 cars with 400hp or more moving to FS???

BS cars moving the DS???

DS cars moving to GS??

and GS cars moving to HS?  Looks like they are bumping down cars to compete with the mini coopers rather than move the coopers to some place they might have to work to be competitive.

FS stock is gonna be rough.  Granted most of the new arrivals are penalized by weight but still....

And DS looks like it is gonna be a tough place this year...


Well I guess it will be an interesting year.  Glad I got out of GS.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 07:10:19 AM »

To be honest, moving the high-end Volkswagens to GS probably isn't as far-fetched as it sounds, given the VWs' low power/weight ratio and soft-ish suspension even on the sporty models.  I would not be surprised if their SP, P, and M classes stay exactly where they are, while their S classes are moved down.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 10:26:58 AM »

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They seems to be killing the current HS, GS, DS and FS ranks.  4 cars with 400hp or more moving to FS???

BS cars moving the DS???

DS cars moving to GS??

and GS cars moving to HS?  Looks like they are bumping down cars to compete with the mini coopers rather than move the coopers to some place they might have to work to be competitive.

FS stock is gonna be rough.  Granted most of the new arrivals are penalized by weight but still....

And DS looks like it is gonna be a tough place this year...


Well I guess it will be an interesting year.  Glad I got out of GS.


Looks like they forgot to move the SVT Focus to HS   :ouch:
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 11:00:17 AM »

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Looks like they forgot to move the SVT Focus to HS   :ouch:


You've got almost as much power as the cars coming in :evil:
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 12:34:47 PM »

One VW I'm pretty sure won't be moving down anytime soon is the R32. That car nearly wiped out DStock this year, I expect to see more people running them next year after Mark Smith's performance in one this season. That said, DS has the '06 BMW 330 to play with which supposedly can fit 275s and maybe 285s under the fenders, and the older 330i ZHP which has a little more power than the currently popular 330, lower/stiffer suspensionand can also fit wide tires.  

I do like the fact that race tire classes got a little tougher which IMO reflects the improved performance of the V710/S05 race tires now available. I would've like to see DSP pax made a little bit tougher, since those car have gotten a lot faster over the past few years. We'll see if STS has any big tire/car developments this year... there are a few new tires coming out that could prove to be veeeeerry interesting indeed!
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 06:25:39 PM »

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Looks like they forgot to move the SVT Focus to HS   :ouch:


You've got almost as much power as the cars coming in :evil:


:blah: I know...... I got the Power, but how about my car Huh? :evil:

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2005, 08:11:55 AM »

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And everything except STS gets its PAX hardened?  Umm...hello?


and CSP :read:
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2005, 05:52:25 PM »

and me and you are stuck in CSP with 93 and 160hp respectively
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