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51  Events / Road Rally / T5.4 for 2008 on: May 04, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
I regret to announce that the 4th edition of our TipToe Thru The Tulips rally (aka T5.4) will not occur this year.

A combination of circumstances, abetted by shameful procrastination on my part, have conspired to make this so.  Pasha and I considered trying to throw something together to make the date, but we unanimously concluded that neither of us wanted our name on what would inevitably turn out to be a shoddy piece of work.

So thanks to all our loyal fans from previous years, and we look forward to seeing you next year when the T5.4 will be certifiably ready for prime-time.

52  Events / Autocross / Results from 11-11-07 on: November 22, 2007, 01:06:10 PM
'scuse me ... am I alone in noticing that we had created a specific category on the forum for results?  None have actually been <i>posted</i> there for quite a while, and neither are these.
53  General / Autos and Autosport / Pix ?? on: May 07, 2007, 05:38:02 AM
All I'm seeing is a little graphic that says:
 " bandwidth exceeded" ...

 ... Sad
54  Events / Road Rally / Results on: April 01, 2007, 05:49:42 PM
BTW: for those who didn't get the memo from Chuck, results can be found at:

For some reason, the BBoard won't let me post this under Road Rally Results.

[Edited on 2-4-2007 by Curmudgeon]
55  Events / Road Rally / Results on: March 28, 2007, 05:14:59 AM
What a shame that more of the dozen folks who preregistered didn't show up for this one.  We had an informative classroom session, but the real treat was having TSD and Great Race legs smooshed into the same rally!

And I learned something (yes, us old dogs are still capable of doing that): running a Great Race leg is exactly the same as running seat-of-the-pants but without the luxury of mileage callbacks.  Makes me wonder how a full Great Race format rally would work; it would have to be at the simplest of simple tour level or you would never see anyone at the last control.

Thanks to Betsy and Chuck for a fun day.  I'll have to run back up to the winery for a taste (with a dessicated driver, of course).  And to those of you thinking of running this year's iteration of our TipToe Thru The Tulips (aka T5.3), some of the roads we ran Sunday will be seen again...
56  Events / Autocross / Autocross today. on: March 20, 2007, 12:08:08 PM
Having the maxPax score be 108 instead of 68 will greatly inflate the point value of all the times under one minute.

(Not that I couldn't use all the help I can get ...)

[Edited on 20-3-2007 by Curmudgeon]
57  Events / Autocross / Great course! on: December 11, 2006, 06:12:23 AM
What a great way to wind up one of the most active years in recent memory!!!  KUDOS to all involved for a great curse and a (relatively) smooth event.  

And a special thanks to all the no-shows who made it possible for the rest of us to get SIX runs on one of the best courses of the year!  Cheesy
58  Events / Road Rally / Wayne and Wendy would have loved it ... on: November 03, 2006, 07:42:37 PM
Wayne and Wendy Whiner, that is.  If being an SCCA nat-anal rallyist means becoming a professional whiner like the ones I saw after the event, I will gladly forego the honour.  

The capper was a contestant who had stopped in sight of a control, and then backed up out of sight to avoid being waved in.  When he was presented with his penalty, he protested that 1) he didn't see the control, but 2) he saw a bunch of people standing near the road and backed up "to be safe" (which means he didsee the control).  I dunno who he thought he was kidding, but it appeared that no one was going to call him a liar to his face, more's the pity.

But working was a joy ... we spent the day congratulating each other on having the good sense to take our 400 worker points and enjoy touring around in the lovely fall weather, then watching the rally cars (most of them) come through.  It was spooky how close to perfect most of them were.  Chuck did a cute thing I will probably steal: he carefully engineered pauses so that each leg was an exact number of minutes long, which made scoring a breeze and made it easy for us workers to see who was on time and who was not.

Kudos to Chuck and Betsy and all the organizers for a well run show from our point of view.
59  Events / Road Rally / A & J Texas Holdem Rally Results on: October 04, 2006, 11:21:08 AM
Uhhhh... A&J?
[align=center]results ?
60  Events / Road Rally / Tulips and Icons and stuff, OH MY!! on: September 25, 2006, 09:08:40 AM
Golly gosh!!  Tulips and icons and all sorts of non-text in addition to text!!  Questions:

1) Is this the standard for "look and feel" for these rallys?  Does each instruction have a tulip or sign picture?

2) Would a normal set of instructions even include the running commentary in column D, or is this text for the example that shows what we would be expected to infer from the combination of icons in columns A, B, and C?

3) Does this example present the entire set of icons, or are there more to be found in some other document(s)?

I see lots of research & training in my future before I would be ready to tackle even running one of these, much less trying to organize one!
61  Events / Road Rally / A & J Texas Holdem Rally Results on: September 24, 2006, 07:10:03 AM
Now that's what I call a "tour" rally !!

Congratulations to Audie and Jeff for putting on a thoroughly enjoyable event: a true tour through the beautiful Chesterfield countryside.  The navigator stress level was minimal (
Pasha thanks you), the roads provided a high driver entertainment factor (I thank you) and even the weather gods smiled on your event.

And so did we.  Smile, that is.  A lot.  Cheesy
Thanx for a truly enjoyable day.

PS: I'm really eager to see the results to find out how we did on the two closed controls.

PPS: we even learned something: that there are still folks growing tobacco in Checterfield county.
62  Events / Road Rally / A & J Texas Holdem Rally on: September 20, 2006, 09:50:17 AM
No address, but check out: this map
63  Events / Road Rally / Surry on: August 28, 2006, 12:38:52 PM
Chuck informs me that I am a hopeless idiot for not having (and memorizing) the official SCCA Road Rallye Rules (RRR) if I am going to run SCCA events.  My abject apologies to Mark Senatrik ... it's not his fault that I am accustomed to the VMSC convention of the General Instructions being the complete set of rules necessary for running the event.

Our problem Saturday was our ignorance of the official "RRR-Onto" definition:

"Onto - the main road, as determined by this determinant, is the road that the execution of a specified action of a route instruction has directed the contestant to travel upon by use of (1) the term onto and (2) the designation (name, number, or letter(s)) of the road. The designated road is the main road at each intersection where this MRD is applicable until a course-directing action (requiring the contestant to leave the main road) is executed."

So there.  We actually did it right by turning left at the crossroads on the NRI, and we made our own trap by taking 644 because we used a definition of "Onto" from another rallye we ran last year.  By "RRR-Onto", we should have ignored 644 altogether once any "course-directing action" caused us to leave it.
64  Events / Road Rally / Surry on: August 28, 2006, 11:09:54 AM
I had a bad feeling about Mr Sanetrik's rally when the end of the Odo leg was on a road which, by the rules in his general instructions, did not exist.  His reaction when I pointed this out was "Oh, details."  Well, yes details.  A course rally is supposed to be an exercise in precise interpretation of the instructions after all, and by that criterion the rally was not runnable from the get-go, since the endpoint for the Odo leg did not exist.  His protestations at the start that we should "not overthink" the instructions seem, in retrospect, to have been another way of saying "I haven't given them a lot of thought, so neither should you."  
Pasha and I did bite what I assume to be the intentional trap on Leg#2.  Running on 652, working on:
  31. Left.
  32. Left at 258.
  33. Right at 651.

You came to a crossroad with 644, which you were ONTO from a long way back.  Correct logic seems to have been:
1) We can't do the NRI to go Left, since that would not take us off our Main Route, which is 644 because we are ONTO it.
2) We can't use this MRD to turn here, because it is ambiguous (644 goes both right and left)
3) So continue down the priorities to "go straightest".
If you get all this right, you go on to a "Y" where you execute the NRI 31 at 692 which tees out at US258, where you do NRI 32 and go on to 651 and do NRI 33.
If you bite the trap and execute NRI 31 at the crossroad, you come to a "T"  with 637 and do a Right .  I'll bet Mr. Sanetrik thought he had cleverly looped the trap, because 637 also tees out on US258 north of 651, so you if you follow it the instructions work and you may even think you are on course until you get to the next checkpoint.  
But oh yes, there was another "detail":  going along 637, before you get to US258 you come to a "Y" where 644 goes to the left.  You cannot execute NRI 32 here, so you must leave the intersection on your "Main Road" which by the Main Road Determinant rules is 644.  This also tees out on US258, but south of 651.  So you do NRI 32 and go less than a mile and again by MRD take 644 going off to the right.  In fact, 644 goes all the way to Zuni on US460, and you won't find any route 651, but you can use the 6.6-mile callback to be sure you are lost before you get all the way to Zuni.  At this point, we thought about going to the midpoint and doing a restart.  But oh, there was another "detail": if you were off course you had no way to find the midpoint.
So we made our best decision of the day:  we went home.  We had used our free-rally coupon to pay for the event, so I guess we got what we paid for, huh?  Oh, and one more "detail": I doubt I will be signing up for any more of Mr. Sanetrik's rallys.
65  Events / Autocross / Autocross today on: August 22, 2006, 11:45:27 AM
"Correction ! It was 4th, 14th, 20th, and 26th."

Ja, ja, they didn't hire me as a typist.
( Gott sei dankt ! )
66  Events / Autocross / Autocross today on: August 21, 2006, 08:57:43 AM
Well now ... I just checked the scores and I feel better:
the 4 drivers in GS placed 4th, 14th, 29th, and 26th in PAX
so maybe I'm just the least fast of a really fast crowd?

Yeah ... that's the ticket ...
67  Events / Autocross / Autocross today on: August 21, 2006, 07:33:20 AM
Great weather, fun course, BUT ... :grr: that'll teach me not to loan out my ride.

I told Pasha not to  embarass me too much.  I am getting used to him being FTD (Faster Than Dad), but he goes out and smokes Engelbert too??  And so now I have no more excuses for being consistently 1-2 seconds slower than Englebert.

Could it really all be due to driver skill level?

NAAAAAAHH .. it must have been the weather or the phase of the mood or whatever.
68  Events / Autocross / RRC venue on: August 14, 2006, 06:50:14 AM
You'll love it ... clean smooth new tarmac, and the courses we have seen so far have been lotsa fun.
69  Events / Autocross / Do it again, Joe !! on: August 07, 2006, 10:10:23 AM
Wonderful layout ... sub-95 temps (when not standing on the tarmac) ... what could be better?

Well... better times maybe ... Draco ran FTD (Faster Than Dad) in a car one class lower than mine.  Could it be the driver? Naaaahh ... my VT100's are getting so hard they're almost like street tires.  

Yeah.  That's the ticket.
70  Events / Autocross / Great event. on: July 24, 2006, 05:51:47 AM
Could we get some day-glo spray paint and paint the cone locations, so we could all get a shot at this course in the dry someday?

Waaa... Sad when I had time enough to change tires it was actually raining, so I decided to go with street tires, and of course it immediately stopped raining and began to dry off.  Humph.

But even thrashing around on greasy street tires was fun ...
71  Events / Road Rally / rally in the piedmont on: July 18, 2006, 11:28:37 AM
1) Yes, they have.

2) No, I don't.

Pasha tells me he got an e-mail with results, so if you gave them an e-address you may have a similar mail waiting.  Perhaps he might even be able to pursuade the VMSC WebMaster to post them on our results page?  Cheesy
72  Events / Road Rally / Rally TSD Tour on: July 14, 2006, 05:31:23 AM
"TSD" means Time/Speed/Distance, which is the calculation your navigator does over and over to keep the team on time.  The idea in a TSD rally is to cover the official course at the given speed.  Since the rallymaster measures the course, he calculates how long each leg should take, and teams are charged a penalty point for each 1/100 of a minute they are late or early.

A "Tour" rally is one in which the route instructions contain no intended traps, so teams should have no trouble following the official course and need concentrate purely on maintaining the assigned speeds.  This is as opposed to a "Course" rally, where the instructions contain logical traps which make following the course more difficult.

You can find info on local SCCA events by going to and selecting USA-southeast" region.  VMSC and SCCA Old Dominion Region are co-operating on rebuilding rallysports, so you will find both our events on this page.  Select a date range and you will see what is available.  You can also go to the ODR page at to find more info, and in particular to find links to flyers and general instructions.

Pre-registration is nice, but we never turn away teams that show up at the appointed starting point in time to register and armed with the entry fee! Cheesy

So come on out and join the fun.  If you want to just dip a cautious toe in the water to see what it's like, come out and work an event.  It's free, you get to spend a day in the countryside laughing at silly things really teams do, and join in the hilarity at the awards dinner that traditionally follows each event.
73  Events / Autocross / Results? on: May 08, 2006, 06:08:38 AM
Originally posted by danielg
results are up!:bounce:

[align=center]HUZZAH ! ! !
<== this is me being grateful ![/align]
74  Events / Autocross / Results? on: May 07, 2006, 05:43:41 AM
Originally posted by gpassut1
Lonnie gave the Lap-top with the results to Pasha.
The scores should be appearing shortly.
1) The scores should have been posted within a week of the event, preliminary results could have been posted on this forum Sunday night.

2) Did he also turn over the cards? The results cannot be posted as official until the computer data are cross-checked with the cards.  This is the real hold-up; it's a real pain going thru all 110 or so cards and verifying the comupter data.  But then doing that work is supposed to be what OD's get 1000 points for doing.

Oh well.  Maybe by May 26th?
Sad[/size]<-- this is me being less than hopeful
75  Events / Road Rally / T5 ... it's baaack ... on: May 01, 2006, 09:59:38 AM
Thanks to Genie and Charlie and Donna and Audie for making the event possible by coming out and working.  We had another control in mind, had we had another crew (sigh).  Maybe next year?

But the weather gods smiled on us (again), and the 12 teams who showed up all seemed to enjoy the day.  Nobody got seriously lost and all teams found all the controls.  The farmers at Control#3 got their cows across the road before the first car arrived (whew), and I made it to Control#6 to open on time (barely!).

Seriously, all you folks who have never rallied or can't find a partner you could live with after a day of rallying, come on out and work: it's a day in the nice weather (usually) and it's always fun seeing who is staying on time and who is not.  Plus with more crews we can put on better events.

Once again, many thanks to all who came and worked or ran.
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