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Title: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: jloehlein on March 24, 2013, 12:52:23 PM
...are here on MyAutoEvents (http://myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.ShowResults?psEVENT_ID=13727)


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: travisb on March 24, 2013, 01:16:07 PM
very fast upload, thanks!


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 24, 2013, 07:58:20 PM
Is it possible to get the cars that ran the first heat?  Since the second heat was all rain i would like to compare cars in my class and times wet and dry. Thanks


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: ccann26 on March 24, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
 I think Amanda and Carl's times are mixed up for the 240 Volvo.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: catapultkid on March 25, 2013, 04:03:39 AM
wow, that was a nice surprise. Thanks for getting these up quick.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: whiteryder on March 25, 2013, 05:46:36 AM

Now I remember why I like running in SS.
No matter how I drive, I'm always one of the first cars on the list.   ;D


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: jloehlein on March 25, 2013, 09:33:40 AM
wow, that was a nice surprise.

Yeah, good job.  You sure you want to get the Merkur running?


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: avbauske on March 25, 2013, 12:47:24 PM
yes dad and I registered so long ago, we messed up and raced with the opposite numbers. Can this be fixed? Sorry to be a pain, we will pay more attention next time!
 Thank you


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: jloehlein on March 25, 2013, 12:58:29 PM
we can swap your names in the results sheet where we track points, but may not regenerate the HTML files for this one change if you're okay using your imagination to make the updates in your mind :)


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: catapultkid on March 25, 2013, 01:03:40 PM
wow, that was a nice surprise.

Yeah, good job.  You sure you want to get the Merkur running?

I'm not sure, but it will be ok. I think the cold was a great equalizer for everyone in heat 1 and the dude with the best pax walks away winner.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 25, 2013, 01:41:21 PM
yes dad and I registered so long ago, we messed up and raced with the opposite numbers. Can this be fixed? Sorry to be a pain, we will pay more attention next time!
 Thank you

yes well get it fixed, if not on the web will be fixed for sure on the points spread sheet.

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 25, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
Is it possible to get the cars that ran the first heat?  Since the second heat was all rain i would like to compare cars in my class and times wet and dry. Thanks

yep I can get the list to you. I'll have you know I didn't write it so I supply it to you without any guarantees that you will be able to read it.

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: rothaus on March 25, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
The question should be:

what is the PAX adjustment for the 2nd heat wet runs ?

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Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: pipefitter on March 25, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
F/P seems to have morphed into C/P unless there was a huge classing change over the winter.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 25, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
Is it possible to get the cars that ran the first heat?  Since the second heat was all rain i would like to compare cars in my class and times wet and dry. Thsnks

yep I can get the list to you. I'll have you know I didn't write it so I supply it to you without any guarantees that you will be able to read it.

Gunny

Haha good i will  take what i can get. I think the guy a head of me in my class ran in the first heat but also i would love to see the average time shift. It seems the mid fast dry times were in the 40 range and the wet fast were in the 42 range


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: travisb on March 26, 2013, 05:15:37 AM
Is it possible to get the cars that ran the first heat?  Since the second heat was all rain i would like to compare cars in my class and times wet and dry. Thanks

yep I can get the list to you. I'll have you know I didn't write it so I supply it to you without any guarantees that you will be able to read it.

Gunny
Can you upload the copy? And would it be possible to include the heat in future results?


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 26, 2013, 11:26:24 AM
Is it possible to get the cars that ran the first heat?  Since the second heat was all rain i would like to compare cars in my class and times wet and dry. Thanks

yep I can get the list to you. I'll have you know I didn't write it so I supply it to you without any guarantees that you will be able to read it.

Gunny
Can you upload the copy? And would it be possible to include the heat in future results?

I'll check the scoring software, if there is an easy way I'll do it. If not you guys can manually transcribe the heats to car numbers.

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: travisb on March 26, 2013, 03:09:42 PM
I have a question about how novice and street tire times are reported. In the sections Summary Results and Detailed Results why are their best times PAXed when other classes show raw times?


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: jloehlein on March 26, 2013, 04:31:40 PM
I have a question about how novice and street tire times are reported. In the sections Summary Results and Detailed Results why are their best times PAXed when other classes show raw times?

Street Tire and Novice are index classes.  That means all Novices are printed in the results together and all Street Tire folks (who are running in a class that allows r-comps) are shown together.  The only way to make that a comparable list is to do it based on PAX.  This doesn't affect points, essentially it just ensures the Novices or Street Tire folks are all printed in the same location.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 26, 2013, 05:28:16 PM
heat one cars
115,245,1,81,13,44,9,10,37,27,114,85,320,43,67,11,19,53,15,240,17,45,56,22,77,110,55,100,141,61,710,136

heat two cars
71,69,99,420,59,131,83,411,21,7,31,18,0,169,96,41,48,132,200,65,777,128,101,34,177,95,117,76,7047,14,171

thats it according to the sheets

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 26, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
 thanks gunny i ran the numbers and average of the heats (based on the top 31 places)

Heat 1 avg time of 39.960 with # 1 Christopher Canns 04 Corvette z06 doing a 37.378 for FTD of Heat 1

Heat 2 avg time of 45.929 with # 96 Timothy Maxey   07 Mini Cooper doing a 41.431 for FTD of Heat 2

I reorganized it also per heat if anyone want me to post a copy. i think this is one of the first races i have ever been to to have such  dramatically different  course conditions in the heats. i haven't organized the heat by class yet but i hope for no discrepancy do to the different heats.       


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 27, 2013, 02:59:34 AM
thanks gunny i ran the numbers and average of the heats (based on the top 31 places)

Heat 1 avg time of 39.960 with # 1 Christopher Canns 04 Corvette z06 doing a 37.378 for FTD of Heat 1

Heat 2 avg time of 45.929 with # 96 Timothy Maxey   07 Mini Cooper doing a 41.431 for FTD of Heat 2

I reorganized it also per heat if anyone want me to post a copy. i think this is one of the first races i have ever been to to have such  dramatically different  course conditions in the heats. i haven't organized the heat by class yet but i hope for no discrepancy do to the different heats.       

Wow, big difference.
Also remember, most of the drivers driving on r-comps were in the first heat. Even though it was cold I believe the tires helped.

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: travisb on March 27, 2013, 09:57:34 AM
I also made a spreadsheet. Using the non-pax times for novice and street tire and just using the best raw time for everyone gave different results. I also removed any non-clean runs.

Heat 1 average best time = 41.437
Heat 2 average best time = 45.930

Attached is my spreadsheet.



Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 27, 2013, 09:55:25 PM
I also made a spreadsheet. Using the non-pax times for novice and street tire and just using the best raw time for everyone gave different results. I also removed any non-clean runs.

Heat 1 average best time = 41.437
Heat 2 average best time = 45.930

Attached is my spreadsheet.



I only did the top 31 best raw times in class mainly due to the dnf on the second heats 32 placed runner. This is why are second heat average is off by a 1000th difference but our first is a  over a second since i didnt include the gtos run.  I ran Ra1s shaved and heat cycled in the second heat. Man was i pissed when it started to hail. By the last lap it was so slick when i nailed a cone it just slid across the track straight up without falling over haha.


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: whiteryder on March 28, 2013, 05:23:37 AM
By the last lap it was so slick when i nailed a cone it just slid across the track straight up without falling over haha.

I saw that!!   The last time I saw a cone do that, I was taking a class in Canada driving on ice & snow.


Just wondering, how does the number of off-course runs vary between heats?
I wasn't paying attention first heat, but second heat it just seemed like there were a lot, and most were
not due to the weather. (A lot of people kept going wrong side of that first pointer cone for example.) 


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: travisb on March 28, 2013, 05:50:26 AM
Just wondering, how does the number of off-course runs vary between heats?
I didn't include two of the Cutlass drivers because they didn't attempt a lot of their runs.

Heat one: 32 drivers, 112 clean runs
Heat two: 30 drivers, 99 clean runs

Heat 1 average 3.5 clean runs per driver
Heat 2 average 3.3 clean runs per driver

Heat 1 cones: 39
Heat 2 cones: 13

Heat 1 off/dnf: 15
Heat 2 off/dnf: 38


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 29, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
By the last lap it was so slick when i nailed a cone it just slid across the track straight up without falling over haha.

I saw that!!   The last time I saw a cone do that, I was taking a class in Canada driving on ice & snow.


Just wondering, how does the number of off-course runs vary between heats?
I wasn't paying attention first heat, but second heat it just seemed like there were a lot, and most were
not due to the weather. (A lot of people kept going wrong side of that first pointer cone for example.) 

Actually the wrong side of that cone was rather common in both classes. I worked station one in heat one and even the courses designer did it twice. Its always the simple things that get you


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: gunny on March 29, 2013, 05:44:23 PM
Just wondering, how does the number of off-course runs vary between heats?
I didn't include two of the Cutlass drivers because they didn't attempt a lot of their runs.

Heat one: 32 drivers, 112 clean runs
Heat two: 30 drivers, 99 clean runs

Heat 1 average 3.5 clean runs per driver
Heat 2 average 3.3 clean runs per driver

Heat 1 cones: 39
Heat 2 cones: 13

Heat 1 off/dnf: 15
Heat 2 off/dnf: 38

Wow, you guys really know how to geekify (the word is in the urban dictionary) the results! entertaining to say the least, Does this somehow make us faster? Just sayin.  :)

Gunny


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: whiteryder on March 29, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
Wow, you guys really know how to geekify (the word is in the urban dictionary) the results! entertaining to say the least, Does this somehow make us faster? Just sayin.  :)

Nah but it sure makes us feel better about being slow.   ;D


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: ccann26 on March 29, 2013, 06:59:14 PM

  We need an official rematch ! Everyone from the first autocross should come to the next autocross and we will run the same heats/separations and do another comparison : D

  Being totally serious though heat 2 had so many off courses that would explain why there were fewer cones listed. How many dry runs did heat 2 get I figured they got at least one but that's just a tease.



Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 31, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Wow, you guys really know how to geekify (the word is in the urban dictionary) the results! entertaining to say the least, Does this somehow make us faster? Just sayin.  :)

Nah but it sure makes us feel better about being slow.   ;D


Agreed nothing like running r comps in the snow.


  We need an official rematch ! Everyone from the first autocross should come to the next autocross and we will run the same heats/separations and do another comparison : D

  Being totally serious though heat 2 had so many off courses that would explain why there were fewer cones listed. How many dry runs did heat 2 get I figured they got at least one but that's just a tease.



depends where you started i was close to the end and by the time i was at the line the rain was full hail. So sad after verona the week before. So if we do this rematch who is going to chip in on a snow machine for the first heat?


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: whiteryder on March 31, 2013, 06:34:54 PM
depends where you started i was close to the end and by the time i was at the line the rain was full hail. So sad after verona the week before. So if we do this rematch who is going to chip in on a snow machine for the first heat?

If we do find a snow machine, don't forget second heat drivers have to WORK in it while the first heat drives. 
Fair is fair!!  ;D


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: ccann26 on March 31, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
Yeah i drove the caddy at the Verona event......it was very, very cold that day.....and wet.....and it stunk too.....


Title: Re: 03/24/2013 Results
Post by: devilsword on March 31, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
depends where you started i was close to the end and by the time i was at the line the rain was full hail. So sad after verona the week before. So if we do this rematch who is going to chip in on a snow machine for the first heat?

If we do find a snow machine, don't forget second heat drivers have to WORK in it while the first heat drives. 
Fair is fair!!  ;D


Haha compared to the verona event the week before no problem! I will take snow and sleet over Pouring rain, standing water, and wind chills any day haha